Have you ever realized your relationship with Jesus has become… professional?
That’s what Pastor Bob Reed from CyLife Church outside Houston, Texas had to face. Despite leading a growing church, Bob realized every week was just another message to prepare, another stage to step onto. The Bible had become a textbook instead of a lifeline.
So he did something most pastors would never do – he confessed it to his entire congregation.
That moment of vulnerability became a turning point, not just for Bob, but for his whole church. It launched them on a journey toward real discipleship that’s transformed how they do ministry.
In our conversation, Bob gets refreshingly honest about:
- The painful wake-up call that changed his approach to leadership
- Why small groups alone don’t equal discipleship (and what does)
- How to lead relationally without burning out
- The definition of a disciple that actually works in practice
If you’ve ever felt like you’re doing ministry but missing the heart of it, this episode is worth your time.
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